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Dame Judith, who has recently returned from Australia noted: "They have had fires in buildings with aluminium cladding systems on them but have been fortunate so far in that there have not been any deaths." Her UK government-commissioned fire safety review post-Grenfell called for a "culture change" to stop builders cutting corners to save money. She told talkRADIO: "I don't really care whether they want to or not. They've got to. That's what they should be doing, morally and legally." This shift will speed up once Brexit has taken place and tougher penalties for malpractice are introduced, she believes, and could be achieved in "two or three years". "Many of the policy issues that need to be addressed for the UK have not had the attention or the air-time that they should have had", she added. Read more at